I must agree — as a money-making scheme, it's definitely crazy and unfounded :D

Good. But invent working-hard-o-meter first.

So if you see my peak rating was 2147, what will change? Why aren't you challenging unsubstantiated claims made by others? Asnwers should be given to those who wish to know the truth.

Here — he is quite close to becoming red in future:)

why do you think I am, contrary to WAS?

Jerk.

Calling someone who cares to explain something you missed, a jerk? Oh, the irony.

"explain"? You took care to find that picture to offend me.

OK I was wrong. Not a "jerk". "A person who made an offensive comment regarding to me".

In that case, you're "a person who takes everything too seriously".

On the Internet, there are mostly 2 types of people:

1. those who get offended by everything

2. those who laugh at it

I think it's clear which category we fall into :D

there are many types of people, one of them are idiots, who think that there are two types

That's why I included the word "mostly".

Aside from that, there are 3 types of people: those who can count, and those who can't :D

I don't care about your rating at all but it seems strange to me that blue coder on Codeforces claims that he's almost red on TopCoder.

Challenging all claims in this thread is not my purpose.

Well, everyone can make unsubstantiated claims. Go find some evidence that there is converging trend for Egypt and Russia, in terms of red competitors/total competitors ratio. Also, CF is the home server for Russia. on Topcoder (which isn't home for both of countries) rankings: Russia: 568 members, (and Russia's population is about 150 million) Egypt: 365 members, (of 80 million country). So, in number of Topcoder participants, Topcoder awareness is GREATER for Egypt than Russia. Yet her red coders/total coders is abysmally lower than for Russia. Find facts first, and don't repeat your bullshit please.

Sorry, but it sounds like you are trying to say that you probably should be smarter than some guy from Egypt — just because you are russian.

Or there are no correlation between doing well in ACM and being smart?

Do you have any stats about number of ACM training camps in Egypt? In our region we have Kharkov, Sazanka, Moscow, Petrozavodsk, Izhevsk and other programming schools/camps. They are spendind 6-8 weeks every year participating in such camps, and still can't get out of green/blue rating?

Or do you have stats about average number of problems solved by Egyptians in a year, compared to same stats for Russians? They are working hard but can't get out of grey/green ratings?

Or could you please tell me how many Egyptian teams are doing 3-5 team trainings every week (like teams in Russia are doing)?

Being registred on online judge/contest platform is far from serious acm training.

No, this is not what I'm going to say. You definitely know what probability is, what probability distribution is, average, standard devation etc. So you didn't even have need to ask me about that in the first place.

If you have such statistics -- share it please. Why do you expect me to disprove your empty feelings?

No, I have no such stats. I thought that you should have it, because you looks confident that guys from Egypt are preparing with same intensity as guys from Russia/China/Poland etc., and they just can't become high-level competitors because of, i don't know... "being standard and non talented in problem solving"... Or how would you call it, it does not matter.

Both of us has small amount of data, right? I will ask some contestants from Egypt to tell us details and provide some stats, because I am sure that they know it better than we do:)

There is thing called "burden of proof". If you think that differences are expained solely by differences in training methods, it is you, not me, who has to seek data for it.

No, he's saying that differences in training methods are probably one reason, not the only reason. The burden of proof that it's not lies more with you.

Actually, based on the limited talks I've had with people (from Egypt, too) would suggest that you're more or less right — the amount of training is large even in countries that aren't doing so well. Not as large as for top teams, but that's understandable.

The reason, though, seems to be more in the lack of quality than quantity (of course, many people just give up halfway).

Of course, that's all far from statistically relevant data.

I've been competing for over three and half years, this information is based on my experience during this period

First regarding the camps most of camps target only a small subset of the universities or perhaps a within university camp, there's also a world finals camp that is held for the world finals participants from egypt.

Most of camps last from one to two weeks, only junior training camps however might last up to six weeks.

So if you ask me what I think about camps I think juniors benifit more from camps than those who can lead the scoreboards.

Aside from camps there's also summer trainings which are mostly sessions, and then homework problems or contests then analysis sessions.

As a contestant I've attended only 2 camps, one was 8 days I think and the other one was the WF camp which I could only stay for 3 days because it overlapped with my final exams.

If you are asking why the ACM is bad in egypt my answers would be:-

1. Education is bad, mathematics doesn't focus on problem solving or analytical thinking, I think I started to learn problem solving when I started to participate in programming competitions.

2. There's no much motivation, young students have a lot of motivation, but they tend to lose this day after day because there's no one doing great achivements that they might seek after that, also our best record in ICPC for egyptian teams is 3 peoblems, so people seem to become lazy when they qualify for the world finals because they think if they do work hard or don't it's going to be the same outcome.

3. Most of universities doesn't have a dedicated coach responsible devloping the training, for example in my university I was taught by elder contestants who left after that to continue their education/jobs, then when new contestants come they teach younger students and so on.

4. People again are lazy, they start motivated and they keep losing motivation as long as they are not performing good in competitions.

I'd say at most 7 teams do 3+ contests per week, this is however for 1 month or 2 months, my team was pretty active before ICPC regional contest, we did a lot of practice contests together, however we only did less than 5 practice contests before ICPC (I mean between regionals and ICPC...).

I don't have any information about what is the average number of problems solved.

The above information is based only my experience, I've also asked a couple of friends to verify it.

5) Islam

beatoriche Seriously? are you going to get religion into this?
FYI, The founder of Algebra is Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī, a well-known Muslim mathematician. Oh and he invented the log operator (actually it's named after him). This is just one man, and we can keep doing this for a really long time, but it's just totally off the topic here.
Your comment is by far the most absurd comment I've ever read on CF, you sir, need some EDUCATION.

Khwarizmi lived more than a thousand years ago. It seems that Islam didn't make people dumb instantly, but over centuries. Now, after 1400 years of Islam, countries that were amongst world leading are lagging far behind.

Your point is -still- totally off, and as I said, the list is so long.
Another modern example just to prove that your point is completely wrong is ElGamal encryption (the irony is that he's Egyptian as well lol).
Again, this is just one example and I don't want to spend my time here listing people, and talking about the actual reasons behind the "lagging".

It's like saying "I know a smoker who lived more than 90 years". So what?

I don't think religion matters at all. And I really don't think your Islam knowledge is better than your CF rating.

You're cherrypicking. BTW, Iran is Shia country, not Sunni unlike most of Muslim countries. Maybe Shia Islam doesn't damage brain as much as Sunni does.

As I said, the examples are numerous but we can't spend time mentioning each and every contribution. My examples were to prove that there is no correlation.

The real correlation is with civilization. Nearly 4000 years ago there were the Greeks, they made a lot of contributions to different scientific fields, and then nothing, why? because they became dumb? No, because their civilization came down. Same thing happened with all civilizations, no matter how strong you are, no matter how large you are, the day will come. There were no exceptions in the human history. And yes, almost all Muslim contributions nowadays are made in western countries, which actually proves my point.

Now if you still think that Muslim countries are lagging because of Islam, please tell me why the USSR collapsed? why did Greeks? Persians? Romans? Ancient Egyptians? Chinese? Mayans? etc..

I am not going to provide you with theory of everything. First, a nation can really grow smarter or dumber in few thousand years, Ashkenazi Jews are example or former. Also, there's a big difference between intelligence of individuals and existence political entities. Despite USSR collapse, CF ratings in Russia/Belarus/Ukraine are OK