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Looking for a Coach — ICPC team
By pachon, 10 years ago, In English

Hi Guys, we have recently form this team, but we are already more than a year involved in programming competitions, we have a basic knowledge, but we think that our individual efforts are not enough :(, so we are looking for someone that guides us not only with topics and problems but with hints and tricks ;). We don't want to be exigent, but we are looking for an experimented programmer that can spend some time in our training. Thank you all.

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Why do you think somebody should spend his own time on teaching some random guys?

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    Well I think that codeforces is a great community, and maybe some of the members can help other members.

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      Well, of course, some of the members can help other members, but nobody will agree to spend his brilliant time (lots of his brilliant time) on some unknown guys. Don't you see the logic?
      Everybody is on his own here. If you want a good coach — you should pay for his work. He won't work with you for free, because you mean nothing for him.

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        I see your point, so don't spend your "brillant time" in this post, and let me see if someone is interest in be coach. :)

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I can't be your coach as I'm not very good, but it will be fun and helpful if we host contests, say weekly, on virtual judge with problems from online judge for students preparing for ICPC.

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    Hi HIdenoriS, thanks for your interest, I have sent you a message to your codeforces inbox.

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Just curious — how this coaching should look? You need a man who will say "go solve some problems!" when you are not working hard enough? CF, Codechef, TopCoder, Hackerrank and other sites all give you possibility to read solutions of other coders and provide detailed editorials.

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    Well my team participate regularly in codeforces, topcoder and codechef, plus some spoj and uva problems, and as you said editorials and solutions are provided, but sometimes it is not enough just to study it by yourself because you are mising what is the idea behind it, I don't have a full idea how this coaching should look, but we need a coach that help us before and after the contest.

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I can be your coach for 500 bottles of Jaguar

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    I appreciate your effort to be a smartass but I have failed to find any sense(or humor) in your comment.

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      I think that 4th letter in your handle is wrong, am I right?

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    Nobody will ever want you as his coach even if you will pay them, blue kid.

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      My psychologically color is red.

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      Look for problem in the "PROBLEMSET" Teddy..!

      You may get Contribution by being fun, Rating by trying , Respect by Respecting!

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        Maybe you haven't noticed so far, but relationship "Codeforces community — Bredor" is somewhat different than in case of other users :P.

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          First of all sorry, and then Yes Im allergic to Rating base noise , and That part of your comment "blue kid"

          Ive been in Div2 contest more than Div1 ones, I usually try to hack so Ive read lots of very low rating guys codes. sometimes they was amazing.!

          They are not fast or geek but they are good programmers, better than average computer science students, but the thought roles here make them retired,cheater,using a fake name.

          Also look at my last contest I make a jump from Specialist to Candidate Master, I had no big changes in that week.

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            I usually don't refer to people's rating and I'm respectful to others, but look at those comments:

            http://codeforces.net/blog/entry/13219#comment-180106 http://codeforces.net/blog/entry/12968#comment-179623 http://codeforces.net/blog/entry/7018#comment-185648

            or simply here:

            http://codeforces.net/comments/with/Bredor

            I just wanted to play in Bredor's game :P.

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            There are lots of very smart guys among blue, green and even grey coders. And i know that some of blue and purple CF users are well-known CS scientists.

            I know a lot of guys who are far from getting into div1, but i'll rather say "wow, it is great that they are solving some problems" instead of "oh no, they are in div2, what a shame" — because these guys have no goals in competitive programming, they don't do intense trainings few times a week, but they like solving problems much more than me:) And that is why they are here. Just because they like solving riddles and puzzles, and that is the way they see CF problems:)

            But when we are talking about being a trainer, we should do comparsion not with most of other CS students, but with competitive programmers. And in most cases high-skilled competitor will be much better trainer than some div2 user. It is obvious that Bredor is not serious, it is also obvious that Swistakk was just playing Bredor's game, but it is still right that most of div2 users are not a good candidates for being a trainer.

            And mentioning fact that someone is div2 user is not offensive/harmful by itself, untill someone find it harmful because he don't like being a div2 contestant.

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              Thanks for your support :)

              But I didnt mean most of Div2's could be good trainers, Also I have no doubt to say I'm fan of some of High-Rated Contestants here I marked them as friend I will check them every contest. But I put the fair-play next to the rating in Comparison ( For ex. the ones that publish video after contest like Petr and dj3500 ), I was just waiting to share my idea sometime somewhere in codeforces.

              But this time was a misunderstanding with Swistakk and I'm happy that its been clarified for me and others that DownVote him for that comment.

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I'm sorry, but J4T8Z9 has got good point and statements like "Well I think that codeforces is a great community, and maybe some of the members can help other members." in this case is just naivety. As you can see in my comments, I really often explain my solutions, try to emphasize ideas behind etc., but being permanent trainer is a really big commitment and nobody will want to do it really good for free. It is rather a normal thing that in order to obtain a permanent help you need to pay someone to do it, but on the other hand being paid for Internet help is somewhat awkward, I won't do it also.

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    High-five!

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    They may find some new friends among high-rated coders — and these red coders will see it like conversation with some interesting people, and helpful advices about ACM will be just one of topics to talk about, beside other non-programming stuff:)

    And there is also a possibility that someone want to try to become successful coach, then he will be motivated not by money or being someone's friend, but by his willing to become not only a successful contestant, but also a good trainer — to learn how to explain ideas better, how to help other coders to improve their weak sides, how to motivate people, how to build right training plans and so on.

    And there can be also lot of different reasons to help other people — it reminds me of this discussion as an example:)

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