Случайно просматривая посылки с последних раундов, я обнаружил факт списывания со стороны пользователя Dedalius. Автоматическая система проверки на списывание не обнаружила этого. Однако если вы внимательно посмотрите на посылки данного пользователя то обнаружите много бесполезного кода.
Заинтересовавшись данным фактом, я нашел оригинального автора данных кодов. Им оказался пользователь TemaTop.
Вы можете видеть совпадающее время посылок, а также ниже представлены посылки данных пользователей. Пример задача 1315С:
Чтобы скрыть факт списывания, Dedalius использовал бесполезный код.
Сравнив посылки, вы можете заметить очевидный факт списывания. Если просмотреть больше посылок данных пользователей, то становится понятно что это не первый случай списывания на контестах!
i think, this two boys must be banned!!!
I absolutely agree with you!
wow he is a genius his useless codes are so funny !!
Я считаю MikeMirzayanov должен обратить внимание!
Неплохой ник)
Я против списывания!
Полностью поддерживаю эту идеалогия.
О господи! Как им не стыдно!
O my god!!
Это как минимум бан.
Очень грустно, что на codecorces все еще остались такие люди. Мне стыдно
Я считаю что это бред!
Не, ну это уже перебор
Надо улучшіть сістему проверкі спісыванія!
I think , he should be baneed! It's unacceptable on Codeforces...
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This is unacceptably!
Стоит заметить, что копипаст кодов не касается только этих двух. Это имеет более массовые масштабы , а также многие помогают себе фейками. Так что Codeforces должен всерьез заняться этой проблемой
Предлагаю добавить на кф возможность репортить таких как эти двое, а то автоматическая система не справляется.
Это очень хорошее предложение. Я считаю, что мы все решаем раунды на Codeforces для саморазвития, а не для рейтинга) И плагиат кодов в этом случае просто бесполезен)
Бессовестные люди! Стыд и отвращение...
руский выучи, а потом комментарии пиши на кф. беСсовестные? вот чурка безграмотная...
Прости пожалуйста :P
Это как минимум бан за создание препятствий для чтения и понимания кода
I think that the codeforces coordinators should pay attention to the following cases
Присоединяюсь к словам вышестоящих комментаторов, пусть майкмирзаянов ему судья
Не понимаю смысл списывать на раундах codeforces. Поднимать рейтинг на сайте, но в реальности оставаться на прежнем уровне — бесполезное занятие. Считаю, что данное действие достойно бана.
With the risk of messing up my contribution, I'm gonna say this:
Well, this really looks kinda crappy, but is public shaming really your answer to such issues? From his profile picture it looks like he's a kid. So you're basically putting just a kid to shame in front of a huge online community, containing a large majority of all competitive programmers for cheating on a contest. Again, that's not ok, and he should be punished for that, but is raising your contribution by shaming a child on a post really the best approach to this? You should have just messaged and admin.
I don't think that having an anime picture as their profile picture strongly suggests that they're a kid. There are plenty of adult users on this site that have such pictures.
The language used in this post is not shaming in any way. The poster is simply presenting facts: that there is significant evidence that this user was cheating.
I see no problem with calling out cheaters when we see them. If they're bothered by the fact that someone caught them and publicly posted about them, then I see that as a positive thing, since it only can help to dissuade such behavior in the future. Why would you not take advantage of this action to reduce cheating?
Look at the TemaTop handle. You should not take this action to reduce cheating for the same reason why we don't have pillories anymore. We don't punish people to cut them from society and have an additional source of entertainment which is getting pissed and getting the reptilian satisfaction of shaming people. Punishment isn't revenge, it's a means to rehabilitation. I think that if Mike heard of this, messaged him about what (sorry an advance) an asshole he was and banned him and his IP, that would have been punishment enough. Now you get a kid that may go to class tomorrow and be finger-pointed by classmates for that (given that I think he's not the only competitive programmer in that high-school).
I don't think the shame is that harsh anyway, kids get caught cheating all the time.
I am quite neutral whether this is right or wrong, I do think that there are benefit such as creating awareness(though again there's maybe a better way to create awareness) or providing greater transparency.
I think the solution regardless is not to dissuade the poster to make such a post, but to ask the admin to enable a system to report cheating or at least give a clear procedure on doing it.
I agree that if this person is indeed a child, then it should be handled more privately.
That being said, there is a clear difference between a pillory and making a post on a website. One involves the initiation of physical violence against an individual and the other does not. I would guess that the reason that pillories aren't used anymore is not solely because there is some form of public humiliation, but is because it was that combined with the fact that it involved using physical force against the offender to enact the punishment.
I agree that the purpose of punishment should not be to incite outrage, provide entertainment, or satisfy feelings of revenge. I also agree that punishment is a means to rehabilitation. However, punishment also obviously serves the dual purpose of dissuading individuals from carrying out the offense to begin with. My point is that if cheaters knew that there was the potential to be called out publicly rather than simply privately banned, then I believe they would be less likely to do it in the first place.
Public disapproval is a peaceful, non-intrusive, yet powerful force that can be used to stop criminal or rulebreaking activities before they take place, without requiring the need for account/IP banning. If such cheaters didn't act because of this, and therefore never required Mike to ban their IP, I would say this is a positive thing to do.
Fair. I somewhat agree with what you're saying, but given that the account most probably belongs to just some kid, I seriously disagree with posting it publicly.
There is a suitable proverb in Russian: “Cherish your honor from a tender age”. After a simple ban, it’s very easy to create a new account. But public shame of cheaters is a good reason to think three times before doing this. This method can save a lot of people from the temptation.
Well, I think cheaters do not affect the results almost at all. So, based on this fact, it doesn`t seem well to shame a kid publicly.
sweet, im gonna do this too, from now on
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It's nice to see that there's someone who covers such problems on CodeForces.Because people like them prevent other people from getting a good rating.
Вопиющий случай. Я считаю, система проверки на списывание должна быть улучшена или проходить в частично ручном режиме. Например, потенциально похожие посылки отправлялись бы авторам контестов или модераторам Codeforces на проверку. Спасибо NextBB за освещение данной проблемы!
And finally, they still get the rating it's too bad
And finally, they still get the rating it's too bad