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To the Chinese People here
By Clinking, history, 4 years ago, In English

I have deleted most of the post and only left the main thing that I wanted in the first go. Feel free to go through revision history. I had to do this because there was a lot of negativity and even the post was not very moral.

How did you defeat the pandemic?

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I'm so sorry for your loss, it's really a hard time for many of us, I hope you stay strong.

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Hey, this message is to everyone who is reading it.

As I don't know what's happening in China so I won't comment on it. But being a fellow human, all I want to say is that I can empathise you in what you are going through right now, as I myself have lost a dear friend a few years back. I understand how devastating it is, the different emotions and the sight that haunts forever. But it is to us how we keep ourselves collected at this point of time and don’t just lose ourselves in the pain forever. I was a bit late to understand it and it took me a lot to recover too. About your friend, just consider what they would want you to become in future? And why would they have introduced you to cp or any other thing? Just to see you happy and to be happy on your progress. May their soul rest in peace. I know it’s hard to be normal at this time but that’s the only way you can not ruin yourself and others who are connected with you.

It's a hard time for everyone and the only possible way is to maintain social distance and report the cases to get treatment asap. Be safe and stay strong.

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How did Taiwan do it then? Certainly the CCP is not in power there! AFAIK east Asians put the collective before the individual, that's the sole reason why they've been so successful. Every time an American says "the government can't tell me what to do, it's my own responsibility", just remember what the consequences of such collective thinking now are.

There's really almost nothing you can do, except protecting yourself and those close to you who trust you. Just stay away from meeting your irresponsible friends. When meeting your own close friends, wear a face mask and also demand that they wear a mask too, this way you will protect each other.

Oh, by the way, masks work — but only if everyone wears them. Some officials admitted that they lied to us a few months ago, apparently so that the public does not cause a shortage of masks for healthcare workers.

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    AFAIK east Asians put the collective before the individual, that's the sole reason why they've been so successful. Every time an American says "the government can't tell me what to do, it's my own responsibility", just remember what the consequences of such collective thinking now are.

    This is just nonsense. Individualism or collectivism has no bearing on the prevention or alleviation of an epidemic. The reasonable individual will affirm the right to do whatever you want but still partake in preventative measures (e.g. mask wearing, distancing). You should consider instead that the reason for success is more likely a habituation to mask wearing and a more conservative attitude towards disease and risk-taking in general.

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The official data released by Chinese government is reliable and I know it clearly. However, I just don't know how to persuade you to trust in me :(

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$$$1$$$.I'm sorry that you lost a great friend :( . I can understand, almost nobody feels good after losing a friend.

But remember, you also have other good friends which you can talk with them. After telling your pain, they will help you, and you will feel better. Maybe you can have a try.

$$$2$$$.Answer to the question:

At the beginning, there were lots of cases(most of them are located in Wuhan, Hubei).

The whole country united up. Strict virus tests were set. Everyone followed the rule — Stay at home. Lots of medical heroes supported the "origin city"(Really? Did the virus really started in Wuhan, but not somewhere else?)

Thanks to the heroes and leaders, the virus got almost stopped in China.

I'm sure that everything I said is true, because I'm a Chinese. I don't accept any ridiculous fake news or rumours. Our country "lied" to us only at the very beginning, because we as well as they didn't know anything about the virus at that time.

$$$3$$$: Honest suggestion:

  • Do not make blog post with topic of a country on cf. Nobody will be happy when their country got attacked by negative rumours.codeforces is not politicforces.

I truly understand your pain. Can you understand our pain? :( please...

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    good

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    My intention is not to hurt anyone's sentiments,but My sole purpose is put some light on the recent events,what are other countries are facing, as whatever I know are facts,Also coincidence happens once not multiple times.

    Also, could you tell me one other country, who is trying to do this, in such worst time we all are going through.

    1] China attacking on multiple fronts.

    2] Chinese hackers stealing data from institutes

    3] Chinese testkits came out to be faulty (not some of them, but a large number of them)

    4] China passing security law in HONGKONG against people's will leaving there, HONGKONG is democracy, they don't want CCP interference in their lives. But other democratic countries cannot do much, except political pressure, just due to their economies are being hit by pandemic

    5] China pressurising WHO to claim that virus is not infectious, but later they found its infectious

    6] China's STRING OF PEARLS strategy against INDIA

    7] Clash of chinese soldiers in galwan valley in INDIA, also no report of dead people to their relatives in china, as china hides military information.

    8] Whistleblowers getting abducted or pressurised.

    9] China's hate towards uighuir muslims, black people.


    All of this things are none other than fact, I haven't said anything personal, so other countries grudge towards china is very natural according to me.

    I am very sorry for your loss, but the thing many international scientists warn china about the wet market way before, but china don't put any restrictions on wet market and china was neglecting them because, it was gaining monetary benefits.

    Now the thing is who is responsible for this, Our country India has been the 3rd most affected country in number of cases, Students in villages Workers,have performed suicide here,just as they don't have any way to survive.

    But my whole point is people living in the country should pressurise their governments to do the right stuff, if chinese people had precautionary measures before, we don't have to face this stuff.

    On a personal side,my uncle is in Mumbai hospital in very critical situation, hope he recovers soon. Again Condolences to all people, who have been affected.

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Actually, most of the countries, that had efficient programs against epidemies, and didn't ignore Coronavirus performed very well, even better than China. Look at the rating. It was created at February of 2019. https://assets.weforum.org/editor/responsive_large_webp_x4QweWrmMyvsFmTTMtZvzIHGl-e9nR2Mn_4aZ50TpNM.webp You can see that most of the countries that were expected to handle outbreak very well, handled it very well, even better than China. Countries like Sweden and UK failed, despite being well prepared, because they tried to wait until everyone gets immunity(they didn't impose quarantine until it was too late). Trump defunded institutions, that had to protect country from such threats, and also refused to respond to virus(I think still didn't delete his tweets, where he claims that Corona doesn't exist).

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I am a chinese student ,16 years old.I want to say something,but my English maybe not well,i will try my best to tell something ture in my mind. 1.At first I feel sorry for you after listening your story.Hope you be well. 2.Second,I know many people in English-spoken country hate of China.And sometimes so do I.However,it truly do well in some fields.I can't control of your mind , but I respect everyone for equality. 3.The most important thing is here.I want to talk about something happening in china.In january a new disease was found in Wuhan.It immediately attract attention.News begin to report it.A month later,our expert find it is a serious infectious disease.The whole country come into enfroce martial law.Even in small village it has some baffle and guard to prevent other people in a different village in.Everyone need stay at home at the first days.Students study at home using Ding Ding ,a software to study,for 4 months or so.After that,it gets well in china.Everything is going to recover.But it expose in the whole globe.I am sorry for that.And our Beijing closes again.may I can replenish tommorow，i need to go now

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    Always preview your contents before posting.

    You can type two line-breaks in order to make a real line-break.

    Also you can use List.

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I will focus on answering your question and introduce the factors of China's success in order of importance.

First, all Chinese people consciously stay at home and wear masks. Because COVID-19 is very spreading, if people do not support prevention, it will cause widespread infections.

Second, the leadership and vision of the CCP. At the beginning of the epidemic, the government did not understand COVID-19 and caused serious consequences. But they quickly corrected their mistakes and took drastic measures to prevent the spread of the virus. Including the establishment of a shelter hospital, organizing a medical team to Wuhan, using big data to process a large amount of information, blocking communities, and ensuring food supplies.

Third, the efforts of medical staff and others. In China, almost no one shrinks because of the epidemic. They are fighting the virus all the time. Workers set up shelter hospitals, doctors worked hard to treat patients, grassroots managers prevented the spread of the virus, and the rest consciously stayed at home to support the fight against the epidemic.

Fourth, China's manufacturing is strong. We have applied many new technologies to this epidemic, including big data, 5G, built a shelter hospital in one week, and rapidly developed a production line for testing reagents and masks.

Fifth, assistance from other countries played an important role in the early stages of the epidemic. We are now also assisting countries that have helped us.

Finally, I would like to advise you if you do not live in China and you want to doubt the data of China, The easiest way is to come to China once, you will experience the most stringent inspection procedures and the most stringent epidemic prevention policies, as well as people's optimism about the epidemic and support for the government.

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  • Strict quarantine measures: I've stayed at home for 40 days straight without even opening the door.
  • Masks: That's really important! I've never took off my masks till June
  • Understanding: No one is angry about having to stay at home, and everyone supports the gov's measures, including closing down cinemas, restaurants and theaters. Everyone believes gov's numbers of cases.

I would like to emphasize one thing: Some may say that Chinese people blindly follows the gov. But Why should we believe in authorities? True, their data may not be that accurate, but who should we believe other than them? Politicians whose sole goal is votes? Capitalists who only want to make money?

I'm really, really sorry to hear that you've lost a great friend. From my perspective, this is a pandemic of all the human kind. No one is to be blamed for it. Every human is suffering. As for you, it's lucky that you can still live. Though I'm not religious, I would still say that it is a treasure from God. Please, stay strong, stay hopeful, stay energetic, believe in authorities and wear masks (and tell everyone you know to keep their masks on)!

Move on, solve some problems and participate in contests. I believe that the liveliness of Competitive Programming will sure bring you out of this!

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Why do so many people from western countries hate China so much?

Are they worried about China's strength?

Sorry for my poor English.

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    Western media.

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    People are frustrated in lockdown and looking to blame someone. China is easy target to blame. It's very similar to how Hitler's party's blaming jews gained popularity. Many people don't believe in science, natural selection, evolution, genetic mutation etc, so they can only blame God or China for this pandemic. They can't blame God (as God is too good to kill so many people in their opinion), so they want to blame China. Just make any youtube video with proved liars, nobodies and pseudo-scientists blaming China and see how it gets millions of views, not because of the merit of the video but because of people's inner desire to blame someone.

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      Yeah lets not talk about the fact that China hid information about the virus for almost 2 months from all the world and blame it on people trying to get few views on their YouTube videos lmao. Btw I thought YouTube is blocked in China?

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        I am not from China, I am not defending China either. I'm just trying to give a psychological insight. As far as I know about humans, many people would still blame China even if they were fully transparent. I have seen a professor of one of top varsities of my country (not a western country) share a faceless audio in facebook which was claiming that China is hiding cure of Covid. People aren't even sure about their accusations, if China is lying about deaths or hiding cure of Covid. They are just looking for someone to blame.

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        yes,it's locked.Every foreign APP in china can't be downloaded unless you have a VPN.Google play and its store cannot find normally.

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    Not Western, and don't "hate" China per se nor blame it for Covid.

    But:

    • 1.5 million Uyghurs rounded up in concentration camps Link

    • Genocide through forced abortions & sterilizations on Uyghur women Link Link

    • Sexual torture of Uyghur women such as rape & rubbing intimate parts with chili paste. Link

    • Using minorities & political prisoners as free organ farms. Link

    • Cultural genocide & organ harvests. A uyghur's testimony: "First, children were stopped from learning about the Quran, then from going to mosques. It was followed by bans on ramadan, growing beards, giving Islamic names to your baby, etc. Then our language was attacked – we didn’t get jobs if we didn’t know Mandarin. Our passports were collected, we were told to spy on each other, innocent Uyghur prisoners were killed for organ harvesting" Link

    • Cultural genocide, part 2 destroy graveyards where generations of Uighur families are buried "to eradicate the ethnic group's identity"

    • China is moving beyond Uyghur and cracking down on its model minority Hui Muslim. 'Afraid We Will Become The Next Xinjiang': China's Hui Muslims Face Crackdown: "The same restrictions that preceded the Xinjiang crackdown on Uighur Muslims are now appearing in Hui-dominated regions. Hui mosques have been forcibly renovated or shuttered, schools demolished, and religious community leaders imprisoned. Hui who have traveled internationally are increasingly detained or sent to reeducation facilities in Xinjiang." Link

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Take myself as an example ，I and my mom persuded my dad to cancelled the family dinner for the Spring Festival in February

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I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Stay strong and be optimistic, no disaster will last forever.

I don't know if it's proper for me to say anything here, anyway I'll tell some information I know.

I'm not sure about it, but I guess many of you underestimated China's measures towards the epidemic.

I remembered on 23 January, Wuhan and nearby cities were put under lockdown, and two new hospitals were built from scratch. We know these could happen earlier, but at the beginning nobody thought those "pneumonia of unclear cause" will cause far-reaching consequences, but now all we can see that the viruses are so threatening, even developed countries are unable to resist.

Later, the government demanded the people to stay at home, and most of the outdoor activities are prohibited, anyone who goes out must wear a mask. For my own, I personally is a otaku, I don't go out even if there is no pandemic. But I truly felt the decline of family's diet quality (my parents went grocery shopping less often and we ate leftovers sometimes).

After March, the pandemic started to affect the whole world. That's when I really realized China was actually done well against the pandemic. The other countries seems not to take the pandemic seriously, I think those developed countries should have enough ability to control the pandemic, but they didn't. I think they may have their own political plan (to maintain the economic or something). You see, in Chinese social network, there are tons of memes about President Trump's sayings about the pandemic, he didn't take it seriously, so maybe the US government didn't, either.

Maybe there are some cultural reasons in here, you may know in Chinese traditional culture, families are big, people have lots of relatives to care of or be cared by. So we think births and deaths very important, macroscopically speaking, this leads to a result that the public health events are paid close attention to by the government, so economic recession is relatively less important here?

I am able to show you many strict decrees issued by the government, but I think I'd better not, they won't help much. These comments on Codeforces will not affect any country's policy after all. Take care of youself.

Hope the pandemic ends soon. Sorry for your loss again. Wish the world be better tomorrow.

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Hey, why delete most of things in the blog, I advise you to rollback to the original version, so that others will understand more clearly.

About blaming China: It's regular that some people will blame the origin of the virus. But that's very immoral to say that. I will never discriminate against any place or people there just because there was a pandemic started from there. At the very beginning, there were a handful of netizens abusing Wuhan inhabitants in the Chinese social network, which I think they are very repulsive and disgusting. Sigh, regional discrimination just sometimes happens. Back to the topic, there's no reason to blame China for what she did, too. It's clear that the serious pandemic is just because the viruses are so strong. Without China trying hard to keep it under control, the pandemic now will just go worse absolutely. Compared with some other countries, China did great jobs, and I'm very proud of it.

We all know the international tense now, western media often reports China news with prejudice. China is a beautiful country with a long history, if you want to know China and Chinese culture more precisely, after the pandemic, welcome you to visit here. But for now we'd better just stay safe.

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Posting a political blog on a Competitive Programming website

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Please don't ask Chinese how they defeat pandemic.

May be they are still struggling

May be their government creating fake data

The truth is, China is not a democratic country, Their people cannot disclose the truth in front of world. All they can tell you is what Chinese Communist Party allow.

Maybe if someone tell truth, he can never login to Codeforces again :)

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      It's so f annoying, since March trapped inside home and unemployed cause a fukcing weirdo wants to eat a raw fukcing bat. And fukkkk CCP.

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    I'm chinese and what you described isn't my nation.

    To be honest, what you described sounds like another nation, your imagination, maybe?

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      Maybe it's not your nation.
      But it what the rest of world know about China !!

      Can, i ask you how it like to live in a non-democratic country in 2020 ?? :)

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          You can't :)

          Social distancing bro..

          Your country give corona to us :)

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            Indian spotted.

            Edit : 6 Indians spotted.

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        Sadly, even the non-democratic country has 5 times GDP as much as India. Plus coronavirus is controlled much better here.

        Use this information when you try to imagine.

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          Because, Your country value money only not humanity !!

          They can do anything for it, like selling defective face mask to world and faulty test kits.

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