Hey coders!
So, after all the excitement of CP, what's next for you? Are you thinking of working together with others on open-source projects, trying out new ideas at startups, studying more at universities, doing freelance work, joining big tech companies, or maybe even becoming a teacher? It's up to you to decide what's best for you.
Share your plans with us! And if you have any tips or advice for others in the same boat, we'd love to hear them. Feel free to share your suggestions, thoughts, or anything else you'd like to add.
Just doing cp because it's fun, not planning for future.
BiggestOtaku, I hail you boss
Based
I'm thinking of learning Spanish, play games & read game source code & make a video game / create game mods, or learn more about computer science.
I just love to drive taxi. But I ain't sure what will i do.
End world poverty, I'm serious
Honestly I also wish to shorten the gap between rich and poor. Basically lower income disparity. Do you have any ideas? I get excited thinking of all the problems a bunch of like minded young people can solve. Having late night plannings and execution. Do you get excited by same?
We can do socialism. No wealth gap if everyone's poor.
Noble thoughts. If we're able to dedicate our lives for the well being of other sentient beings, instead of wanting more and more for our ownselves there wouldn't be so much suffering. We ravage the Earth for our own greed, and turn a blind eye to the problems of others, even worse develop feelings of hostility toward them. As a result there is an unjust distribution of resources, wars, climate crises, etc. Maybe this discussion is irrelevant for codeforces. If you wanna connect outside of cf we could discuss further.
This is something I have also thought about quite a time and I reached a conclusion. The wealth gap can be only minimised when lower end become the producers and the upper end become the consumers, which is difficult only the lifestyle and taste is very different of people living on extreme ends.
If there could be educational program, session, camp, or fellowship that could guide selected people to make products for the elite, this would be most effective
That has already happened to some extent. Poor people go to factories to make stuff for rich(er) people. In my opinion, the only way to truly reduce the wealth gap is to somehow make everyone have the same IQ. Past efforts to reduce the gap have failed cuz smart people always figure out how to get rich.
So what you are saying is that a naturally smart person born in Sudan which is in a state of war and famine is going to have the same chance of obtaining wealth as a person with all needs met and tons of educational and job opportunities. That is an absurd thing to say.
Well you have to ask yourself this: why is Sudan in such a state in the first place? It is in such a state because, on average, its inhabitants aren't very smart. Because Sudanese (again, on average) aren't very smart, the country of Sudan can't acquire wealth as well as other countries with smarter inhabitants. So the miserable state of Sudan kind of makes sense when you consider this.
My point is that, yes, the smart Sudanese will have a harder time getting wealthy when compared to the smart Chinese, for example, but this hardship is largely due to the low national IQ that plagues Sudan in the first place.
You have the consider the fact that IQ is simply not a measure of pure intellectual talent, and many different aspects of one's life contributes to it. It's more likely for people to score less on IQ tests due to poverty than for people with low IQ to end up poor.
The second part is not true. I've found that it is pointless to argue about the first part so Imma ignore it, sry.
Say there are two people: one born into a household of average socioeconomic status but this person is borderline retarded (IQ = 70, 2sd below the mean), and one born into just a super poor household (2sd below the mean in terms of socioeconomic status) but this guy has an IQ of 100 (average IQ).
Who do you think is more likely to end up in poverty as an adult?
Well the truth is that the first guy has around a 25% chance of ending up in poverty while the second guy has around a 10% chance.
The point is that IQ is a much stronger predictor of the probability of being in poverty than SES. I do not want to argue about IQ and genetics since that tends to go nowhere, but modern scientific studies say that genetic differences account for over 50% of the variance in IQ. 50% is, in fact, a very conservative estimate.
You misunderstand. I'm not talking about whether SES predicts future financial status, I'm saying that the direction of causality goes the other way — the average SES of a large population predicts its average IQ. If the SES of many people increased, the average IQ of the population would be likely to go up as well.
In fact, this might be wrong too. Perhaps there's a third variable that influences both average IQ and SES.
Indeed, that is why I included that IQ is like 50%+ genetic. No amount of positive environmental factors can make a retard (someone with an IQ <70) an average person. Some of IQ is definitely environmental though, so a population's average intelligence can definitely go up with a better environment.
I believe that it is reasonable to say that IQ causes a whole bunch of the variance in SES.
SES is an effect of IQ rather than a cause. If SES were the cause of IQ, the correlation between adults' IQ and their attained SES would not be markedly higher than the correlation between children's IQ and their parents' SES. Further, the IQs of adolescents adopted in infancy are not correlated with the SES of their adoptive parents. Adults' attained SES (and hence their SES as parents) itself has a large genetic component, so there is a genetic correlation between SES and IQ. ... Because the contrary is so often declared by sociologists, it has been termed the sociologist's fallacy.
But then, what causes such drastic differences in IQ in the first place?
Well you might perceive it as drastic but I'm not sure if the differences are that big in the grand scheme of things. To dogs or monkeys, all humans might seem so smart that the difference between 70 IQ and 130 IQ would be negligible.
The intellectual differences in a population are pretty much caused by nature. Almost all traits that are largely inherited form a Gaussian distribution in a population. Intelligence is no different. The intellectual differences between populations are probably caused by differing evolutionary paths. One such theory that attempts to explain why there are great disparities between some national IQs is the cold winters theory. It is kind of controversial and you will see why if you google it.
do you happen to frequent /pol/ by any chance, my good sir?
Very based. It's sad to see the cancer of blank-slatism that underlies modern leftist ideology being so pervasive even on Codeforces.
IQ is obviously not a very precise measure of intellectual ability (especially at the tails), but it's completely ridiculous to not even consider the genetic component of g and how it may differ between populations.
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by your logic Einstein would had been richest person in his time,
The correlation coefficient between intelligence and wealth is not r = 1 but I'm sure that the wealth gap would be nothing to worry about if everyone had the same IQ. Einstein was actually moderately rich btw.
i believe IQ is not something you are born with.it's acquired as you grow...
how is IQ measured ? by taking and logical and reasoning ability test ..but you learned and practiced this abilities your whole life in school and college..if you are born into sudan and went to a shitty school do you think you would still have the same reasoning and mathematical aptitude and all other things we take into consideration as "IQ"..IQ is a real thing but it is acquired not born with ...
`Poor people go to factories to make stuff for rich(er) people```
I would like to contradict here. People are not working inside to making products, they are working for the owner of the factory to make products. Here the producer is factory owner and not the workers. Also a big variable would be what product/volume factory is making. If it's making something regular and or like a FMCG product, then everyone will be making one. To make a product that the upper class consumes one needs to make high class product
Get a girlfriend.
ok
why can't she get a girlfriend?
I don't think I'll make anything out of CP apart from enjoyment by doing contests and solving problems. Other plans are to learn machine learning and become an AI Engineer. I'll also Django or maybe React in vacations and will try to work on a project which will be a codeforces tracker, recommending problems, virtual contests and stuff. I haven't thought of implementation and stuff right now but its just a plan.
flip burgers
Losing virginity
Eat Hajmola
purple hajmola, worst flavor of the bunch
Orange ftw
Touch grass
A job,I guess
I have a wish to study Computational Mathematics but don't know how and where / another wish is to work for HFT
nvm
my furthest vision would be wondering if there is any contest today
I am planning to study asociology at The Orz University of Red in Istanbul. My master's thesis will be on "CF Contribution How", we can work together since you are obviously very knowladgable in this topic.
How can I get a degree there?
Doing CP because I like problem solving and programming. Don't planed a spesific thing for future but, making my own company, and running Open Source projects under it, company will also provide devlopment services because end of the we have to make Bread and Buttor.
I am currently doing thats all the owrk on a samll scale <3
Plan to go to EJOI / JBOI, this year and next year, and IOI in 2 years or maybe this year
I mean I don't plan on leaving cp anytime soon, but I'd like to get into startups/intern at one once I start college. Oh, and there I hope to take a lot cs theory classes and do research!
Marriage
freelance may good idea
while cp to i work on open-source web apps using react,vue
Defeat Crocin, and become unrivalled
I plan on getting into chess.
Not planned yet, may be joining a tech company. I started CP to clear OA's, but in this process, I liked it :D
maybe steal from the rich undeserving like political peeps
just not smart enough to do that yet