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Why would you need a refferal after the interview stage?

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    I think it increases the chances of being hired.

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      I think positive feedback from googlers is that increases chances of being hired, not the your ability to list some googlers.

      I doubt that feedback 'I dont know this guy, he is some random guy from codeforces' is going to increase those chances.

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        'I dont know this guy, he is some random guy from codeforces' counts as a lead. It may help to get an interview, but that's it.

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          Why the minuses? A lead is a weak referral, which employees can make both at Google and Facebook (in my experience).

          It counts little, but at least makes the candidate CV be seen by a recruiter and start the application process.

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It doesn't work that way. Referrals are made for people that we've worked with in the past (classmate doesn't really count). There is a questionnaire about what the Googler knows about the referral.

In any case, referrals are mostly useful to get an interview. From what I've heard, they have little to no weight in the hiring committee decision, unless the referral is very strong from a very senior Googler.

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    Hi mogers,

    I guess if its in terms with people I've worked with, then I don't know any googlers then. But in the absence of that can't an assessment be based on my performance on codeforces?

    Thanks for you kind explanation.

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      Hi Arthur,

      Please see the comments above. An assessment based on performance on codeforces would be similar to a "lead". A lead is a weak referral, more like "this person seems smart, it may be worth to interview".

      Since you're already on the interview stage, this won't help at all. Interview performance is almost all that matters for the hiring committee decision. Prepare well and good luck!

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This question will sound stupid, but I'd still ask. How did the recruiter find you? I will be job searching soon, but I have no idea regarding how I can make recruiters find me. Please message me with a response. :)

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    I also have the same question . I find many people having similar CF rating as mine from some top-tier universities getting internships in reputed companies, but i have no idea how can i get into those places . How can i get an interview in the first place ?

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      I don't know, I just had a lot of friends on the inside. But you can always just send a resume.

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        Man!! Just look at his graph. Were you already so good when you started coding here? You must've competed on topcoder , etc ?

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          Thats obvious, isn't it . He/she is at least aware about codeforces for at least the last 5 years .

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          You must've competed on topcoder , etc ?

          I have red TopCoder rating but I haven't wrote SRMs for a long time. It is mostly ACM-like competitions that improved my skills though. TopCoder didn't even exist when I started.

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    I know a very simple way: Google will find you if you win a T-shirt in Google Gode Jam.

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      It may sound silly, irrational, reckless, and mindless, but that is the only path to Google I'd prefer. Become so good, they'd fear rejecting you.

      <Go on, downvote me, I don't care>

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    if you want to contact with Google, you should be aware that their hiring process is similar to russian post, i.e. it takes a lot of time. There are at least 3 stages (initial interview, technical interview, onsite interview), and after each stage recruiter can hold his/her response for a month.

    About codejam: Google's policy is to interview everyone who advanced to round 2. T-shirt isn't mandatory.

    And a couple of general tips:
    1) remember Linus Torvalds' quote "talk is cheap, show me the code". It doesn't matter what is written in your CV. CVs are for recruiters, developers (i.e. actual decision makers) don't even read them. But they will be pleased to look at your accounts on github, stackoverflow, topcoder, codeforces, hackerrank, etc.
    2) interview offers are tending to fall into spam folder in your email client. Check it regularly.

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